Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me

TOPIC:

A Cold Starting Tip ! 10 years 2 months ago #1565

  • KZQ
  • KZQ's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • Lifelong Rider Suffering Through MBD
  • Posts: 1026
  • Thank you received: 274
Another consideration with most motorcycles is that the transmission adds a lot of more volume and oil to the equation when compared to an engine that has a separate transmission. This means that while it's a good idea to start a bike periodically through the winter, it's important to let the engine run until the whole contraption is up to temperature. This typically takes 20 minutes! This is not a big deal with our liquid cooled sixes but can be a real challenge when there's snow on the ground and you're trying to warm up an air cooled bike. If you've ever seen a oil sight level window that's cloudy or obscured with a white or tan film it's because the bike has been run an put up before enough heat is generated to drive out the condensation. If you can't see through the site glass, can you imagine what the rest of the interior of the case looks like?

Regards

Bill
1947 Indian Chief, 1968 BSA Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 Kawasaki W3, 1976 KZ900 A4, 1979 KZ750 B4, 1979 KZ750 B4 Trike, 1980 KZ550, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 1985 Kawasaki ZN1300, 1987 Yamaha Trail Way, 2000 Honda Valkyrie Tourer, 1981 GL 1100, 2009 Yamaha RoadLiner S

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

A Cold Starting Tip ! 3 years 2 months ago #28870

  • jerz1kuf
  • jerz1kuf's Avatar
  • Offline
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Posts: 1
  • Thank you received: 0
Works great!! Greetings from Calgary

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

A Cold Starting Tip ! 3 years 1 month ago #28884

  • jayincanada
  • jayincanada's Avatar
  • Offline
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Posts: 2
  • Thank you received: 0
Calgary Scotland, or Calgary Canada?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

A Cold Starting Tip ! 3 years 1 month ago #28916

  • scotch
  • scotch's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Sustaining Member
  • Posts: 1891
  • Thank you received: 832
Cold starting problems are due to two separate issues. Keep in mind that the choke system is completely independent (fuel wise) from the rest of the carb.
One of these issues is the lack of sufficient vacuum to pull fuel into the choke system. The Choke-Air modification (a restrictor) deals with this. Now there is choke fuel. The engine will fire. The second issue is the idle fuel. Once the engine fires the choke must be reduced or the engine will quickly stumble and quit from being too rich. So we reduce the choke. The choke plungers are now being lowered and there is a reduction of choke fuel but the engine will quit without some jockying of the choke lever. The reason is because the throttle plates are still open too much to create sufficient vacuum to draw fuel into the idle circuit. This is because the fast-idle roller is riding high the apex of the cam. The solution to this is to re-profile the fast idle cam. I have previously suggested this is shouldn't be done,......only because I could envision someone going overboard with their Dremel !
I used my Dremel to remove the apex of the choke cam. About 1mm. Worked perfectly for me.
Now: Full choke - bikes fires quickly and the choke can be reduced and the engine will continue to run because with the modified choke cam, the throttle plates will be closed considerably more. sufficient to create enough vacuum to draw fuel into the idle circuit almost immediately. This also provides a far more linear movement of the throttle plates relative to the position of the choke plungers. The cold start idle is completely manageable because Idle fuel delivery is immediate. The typical cold start popping and farting due to slow and uneven fuel draw is eliminated.
Compare my modified fast idle cam to yours !
The "shiny" edge of the cam is due to de-burring !
1980 KZ 1300 sr# KZT30A-009997
Always High - Know Fear !
Attachments:

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by scotch.
Time to create page: 0.108 seconds
Powered by Kunena Forum