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Igniter testing

4 days 6 hours ago
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Does anyone have actual experience testing the igniter unit ? I have a 80 1300 that I bought as a project. Done carbs, cam chain tensioner and a ton of other stuff. It starts and runs, but not quite right yet. Has good spark on all cylinders. Going thru various things, I tested the igniter and according to the manual it fails all the out of bike tests but one. It passes the in bike tests. Pic has the results. Used 2 different meters). 

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Re: Igniter testing

4 days 5 hours ago
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I think the note under the bottom picture explains it. Unless you are using the meter that K used (maybe analogue too) then the readings will differ. These are semiconductor components that will perhaps vary depending on the meters test voltage.
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Re: Igniter testing

4 days 4 hours ago
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Maybe analog is the key. All those old factory testers were analog. I just ordered one. We'll see ?

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Re: Igniter testing

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Performing electronic tests without an understanding of what you are testing and comparing the results to a "standard" is not easy. When you find that your test specs are out of whack, what does that mean?
So I'll tell you that inside the igniter there are 3 Darlington transistors which are high current transistors (electronic on / off switches. The small connector receives input from the pulser coils and switches those Darlingtons on / off. What you are testing at the small connector relates to the "Base" , "emitter" and "collector in the Darlintons.
Here's a Youtube video  Testing a Darlinton transistor  and the guy explains the various tests and what the meter readings mean.
Basically, you have Darlingtons that don't test out and a new igniter is in order, judging by your results but it's nice to understand why the test indicates a failure..

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Re: Igniter testing

4 days 2 hours ago
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Well.... while I am certainly not an electronics expert by any means, I can follow instructions in the fsm. I guess my real question is, has anyone actually, personally put a multi-meter to an igniter and what were the results ? By the tests from the manual, the igniter is bad, but the bike runs, has spark all cylinders. Is this possible ? Could that be a cause of weak / intermittent spark ?  it seems to idle ok, but trying to rev it, it randomly spits / backfires thru the carbs, but once past a certain point, say 2500 rpm it revs fine and doesn't miss out. Thanks !

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Re: Igniter testing

3 days 19 hours ago
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I have used a meter (digital) on an igniter and was only concerned that I got similar readings on each of the three circuits under test. I am usually more concerned with minimum spark gap (should be more than 7mm) between the ends of each coil output pair - using a spark gap tester
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